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Re: Canadian 404C restoration

Berichtdoor Mike Tippett » 16 nov 2017, 08:55

I was away in Prince George last weekend with my wife but on the way we managed to squeeze some 404 action in: I stopped by John Coltman's house in Barriere BC and he gave me a bunch of NOS 404 parts, plus some old KF2 injection parts and lots of spare fasteners and hardware.

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On the way back home I bought a huge sheet of rubber for making the pedal box gasket and inner fender rubber seals. Tonight I took 15 minutes to make a new gasket. It's on the car already, on the studs in the footwell waiting for the pedal box to be mounted (months from now, I don't want the pedals in the way early on in the reassembly process).

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Old one on right, my replica on the left.
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Re: Canadian 404C restoration

Berichtdoor Mockenrue » 19 nov 2017, 02:34

That's a nice harvest, Mike 8)
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Re: Canadian 404C restoration

Berichtdoor Mike Tippett » 19 nov 2017, 03:08

Yes! The engine bearings are for a PRV so I gave them to a friend in Alberta.
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Re: Canadian 404C restoration

Berichtdoor Mike Tippett » 19 nov 2017, 05:35

Slow progress to report....

Dashboard's Pininfarina sign has been replated :
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....and mounted on the dashboard's stainless steel trim panel. Note the stainless trim to the left of the instrument cluster, it's not original but I like it.
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Water pump pulleys. The one with red insulation is the one I propose to use, because it's in better condition than the original with the cracked insulation. I painted both anyway. The old one still works fine. Afbeelding
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Re: Canadian 404C restoration

Berichtdoor Mike Tippett » 22 nov 2017, 08:26

Wiring harness reinstallation. The bit that pops through the rear bulkhead into the trunk was worrying me because it was a bear to remove but it slid back into place beautifully. You can barely see here the flat black concealing plate that the wiring harness goes through to get to the front. The fuse box has been clipped back into place below the A-pillar. Next step is to get the front of the harness installed. That should be somewhat more complicated!

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Today I got my new remanufactured bumper irons (for the side front bumper mounts) for my Coupé, made by Richard Gretau in Bordeaux:

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Re: Canadian 404C restoration

Berichtdoor tomtom » 26 nov 2017, 11:26

TOP!
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Re: Canadian 404C restoration

Berichtdoor Mike Tippett » 16 dec 2017, 09:39

I've been rather unambitious these last few weeks but a few parts have still trickled in. Waiting for a care package from France with the washer nozzle seals before I can get too far with the reassembly under the dash.

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New plugs for the 404C doors that accept the upholstered panel clips, an ovoid plug for the hole in the new front crossmember (which the original one didn't have) and ten trim clips for the stainless steel rear fender trims.

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New NOS fuel sending unit, not the cheapo version sold on eBay etc.
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Re: Canadian 404C restoration

Berichtdoor Mike Tippett » 13 feb 2018, 07:19

Bit of work done over the past weeks:
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Sending unit mounted (I found the screws!), put new o-rings on three screws that secure the unit to the tank

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Front bumper mounted, slight adjustments required

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Under bumper spoiler that was fitted to 1962-1966 404C models

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Rear bumper mounted, license plate light, fuel filler, plus I improved the hood release cable, mounted the battery buffers and found the missing hardware for the windshield washers
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Re: Canadian 404C restoration

Berichtdoor Mockenrue » 15 feb 2018, 03:06

Wow, that rear panel paintwork seems like a mirror. [thumb up]
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Re: Canadian 404C restoration

Berichtdoor Mike Tippett » 17 feb 2018, 04:07

The whole car is like that now, it's really nice! It wasn't cheap, but it was good!
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Re: Canadian 404C restoration

Berichtdoor Mike Tippett » 18 feb 2018, 03:39

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Tail lights are mounted with 3M non-drying putty in behind the vinyl gasket to keep water out of the trunk/rear fenders.  I also put new cage nuts in the rear side bumper mounts, sealed them also with 3M putty so they won't leak and temporarily installed the trunk lid seal, which is perfect!
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Re: Canadian 404C restoration

Berichtdoor Mike Tippett » 26 feb 2018, 05:07

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Painted the steering column today. Looks pretty decent now. It was rusty in the lower engine compartment area.
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Re: Canadian 404C restoration

Berichtdoor Mike Tippett » 04 maart 2018, 09:30

Today I didn't do much for the car, but I did manage to take the steering shaft out of the column for a thorough cleaning and lubrication.  Between the shaft and the column in the photo, you can see the upper rubber coated bronze bushing that provides location for the shaft.  All parts are in great condition so after a coating of thick grease, it's all back together.  

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Re: Canadian 404C restoration

Berichtdoor tomtom » 04 maart 2018, 23:42

WAUW! It's look fantastic, Mike :mrgreen: :wink:
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Re: Canadian 404C restoration

Berichtdoor Mike Tippett » 11 maart 2018, 06:55

Thanks TomTom!

The third batch of cadmium plating has been done, and about half of the stainless steel trim polished:

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I snapped the window frame SS trim back on both doors, and provisionally put the beltline trim on as well.  The rear quarter window trims will be next. 

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Re: Canadian 404C restoration

Berichtdoor Michael » 11 maart 2018, 10:44

very nice !!!
Dutch yellow registration plate ( HB--------) on the wall ?
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Re: Canadian 404C restoration

Berichtdoor Mike Tippett » 11 maart 2018, 19:09

Yes and I also have a dark blue AFC plate on another wall, fro when my father was posted to Brunssum in 1969-72.
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Re: Canadian 404C restoration

Berichtdoor Mike Tippett » 23 maart 2018, 06:15

Well I have slowed down a bit but a short while ago I mounted the Pininfarina door jamb wedges with the new clear plastic gaskets I got from Peugeot in France:

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Tomorrow a few more parts go in for cadmium plating: hood latch, a few bolts etc and the clips that hold the rear quarter windows in. The front fender stainless steel strips will also be polished by the same shop.
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Re: Canadian 404C restoration

Berichtdoor Mike Tippett » 09 apr 2018, 05:18

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Today I installed the rubber flaps (which I had to remake) for the front inner fenders, which are intended to keep the mud out of the back of the front fenders.

I also derusted three of the rear brake lines and painted them.  May remake one or all of them, but I wanted to inspect them carefully first.

In just over two weeks, we will be in Japan for our son's wedding so work will stop until mid-May. 
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Re: Canadian 404C restoration

Berichtdoor Mike Tippett » 12 apr 2018, 07:46

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Latest batch of plating, including engine hood latch, support mount for SEV wiper motor, three of the four decent used front suspension bolts (spare, but with better plating than the new Peugeot-supplied ones I have installed), and of course the 10 rear side window trim clips.
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Re: Canadian 404C restoration

Berichtdoor Mike Tippett » 11 jun 2018, 03:38

Today I finally resumed work on the 404C after about two months!

The passenger door side window winder cable went in beautifully, and after winding the handle back and forth several times, the cable settled and the winder did about 8.5 complete revolutions. OK, good!

So then the driver's door, with the winder given to me by Nick Angiuli from Florida went in. It seems that it was sort of wound improperly on the drum because I could only get 5 turns in. So I removed it again and wound it back and forth with the cable tensioned over a round metal part of my vise.

Eventually I got 8.5 turns and then carefully held the cables near the drum while reinstalling. Mounted in the car, it had 8.5 turns to the handle! Woo-hoo!

The next stage is to get new tracking for the window glass and then to attach the window carriers to the cables. That should be a bit of work, but I am not dreading it like I was today's job.

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Re: Canadian 404C restoration

Berichtdoor Mike Tippett » 26 jun 2018, 22:10

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The photo above is of a Jaeger sports instrument panel for the 404C that was sold as an accessory in the 1960s. I have wanted one for a long time, but they are rarely for sale and when they are, the cost is very high, 1000+ Euros.

So I have been looking to make one myself, using Canadian versions of these same gauges from the same era (or just afterwards, late 1960s). In this case I have put together five of the six necessary gauges, as shown below:

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The speedometer with trip odometer is from a Renault 8 Gordini, Canadian version, as are the battery and temperature *F gauges. The rev counter is from a Renault 8S from Canada, which has a redline at 6200
RPM which is about correct for a 404 Injection. The fuel gauge is also from the 8S, but identical to that fitted to the Gordini.

Now all I need is an oil pressure gauge to match, and them to make a plate to receive all the gauges.

However, when the 404C is first assembled I will be using the original instruments. This one will be added a few years later.
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Re: Canadian 404C restoration

Berichtdoor tomtom » 26 jul 2018, 11:56

Not sure what's original but maybe this comes in handy: https://www.leboncoin.fr/equipement_aut ... 88828.htm/?
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Re: Canadian 404C restoration

Berichtdoor Mike Tippett » 26 jul 2018, 15:37

Thanks - that one has incorrectly sized instruments (too small speedometer and rev counter). I am getting close to having exactly the correct gauges!
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Re: Canadian 404C restoration

Berichtdoor tomtom » 26 jul 2018, 15:45

You're right but the meters are not in the correct place on your picture; see http://arthur-kerkhoff.com/site/404c/ka ... tieken.htm :mrgreen:
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