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Re: Canadian 404C restoration

Berichtdoor Mike Tippett » 26 jul 2018, 16:56

Correct; that photo was of another TdB Jaeger that was for sale on LBC about 8 years ago for 800 Euros. Definitely also not exactly correct! Mine will have symbols instead of the French words.
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Re: Canadian 404C restoration

Berichtdoor tomtom » 26 jul 2018, 17:00

But on the photo I see French words? I also know an address for you for the original jaeger lights :D !
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Re: Canadian 404C restoration

Berichtdoor Mike Tippett » 26 jul 2018, 17:44

The photo of the 5 gauges on the blanket shows my gauges. So, please tell me where the Jaeger style warning lights can be purchased!
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Re: Canadian 404C restoration

Berichtdoor Mike Tippett » 13 aug 2018, 02:39

Last week I got the matching 12V oil pressure gauge!  Now they all need a cleaning and I have to make up a plate to mount them (and 5 warning lights too).

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Re: Canadian 404C restoration

Berichtdoor Maarten Deen » 13 aug 2018, 07:02

Where do you connect the oil pressure gauge? Is that as a replacement for the oil pressure contact?
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Re: Canadian 404C restoration

Berichtdoor Frank.04 » 13 aug 2018, 08:36

As far as I know there are two gauge types, each with dedicated installatition; I happen to have both of them fitted in two of my 504's.

The first one is electrical and should be the factory installed type. The sensor is fitted on the external oil pipe in between the block and the cilinderhead. Sensors are hard to find!

The second one is hydraulic and needs a fysical output from the oil pressure system. To create this I used a special (longer) banjo bolt and a plastic tube. You can place it on the oil pipe as mentioned above or (what I did) on the oil pipe of the Kugelfischer injection pomp.
Also the banjo bolt is/was hard to get because the tread must be M8x1,25 combined with double holes.

So, what you choose is obviously depending of the type of pressure gauge.
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Re: Canadian 404C restoration

Berichtdoor Mike Tippett » 13 aug 2018, 16:21

Mine is electric. I'm going to replace the oil filter fitting, I think, though I do have a connector made up for the block to head pipe too, which was originally for a capillary tube type pressure gauge. The problem with the latter is that the actual oil pressure is lower at that location.
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Re: Canadian 404C restoration

Berichtdoor Michael » 13 aug 2018, 16:29

I think I have one on stock somewhere.....maybe a picture will help you.
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Re: Canadian 404C restoration

Berichtdoor Mike Tippett » 13 aug 2018, 16:35

Michael schreef:I think I have one on stock somewhere.....maybe a picture will help you.


That would be great!
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Re: Canadian 404C restoration

Berichtdoor Gilletti » 13 aug 2018, 21:46

On request/behalf of Michael I herewith share the promised picture with you.

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Re: Canadian 404C restoration

Berichtdoor Mike Tippett » 13 aug 2018, 22:03

Thanks!
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Re: Canadian 404C restoration

Berichtdoor Mike Tippett » 16 sep 2018, 04:40

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I was dreading removing for the second time the driver's side window winder cables to reseat them properly. It went reasonably well. As did the installation of the window tracking. The nightmare was installing the interior door opener - getting the clip on to the door latch, blind and inside the door was "fun". I also installed the door lock. Installing the glass is a pain too. Ugh, glad it's over.
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Re: Canadian 404C restoration

Berichtdoor Mike Tippett » 16 sep 2018, 04:47

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Re: Canadian 404C restoration

Berichtdoor Mike Tippett » 03 okt 2018, 01:14

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Thanks to Harm - who is active in this forum - in the Netherlands for finding these original Jaeger sports instrument panel warning lights! I just got them today. L to R:

- low fuel pressure (KF/KF2 engine)
- low brake vacuum / low brake fluid level
- low oil pressure
- main/high beam warning light
- turn indicator warning light

Now all I have to do is make a panel to hold the 6 gauges and these lights, paint it....oh and rebuild all the instruments, which likely need a refresh.
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Re: Canadian 404C restoration

Berichtdoor pauldevries » 03 okt 2018, 13:27

nice to see your work on this beautifull car :D
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Re: Canadian 404C restoration

Berichtdoor Mike Tippett » 08 okt 2018, 04:57

Thanks, Paul!

Today I got the beltline trim installed on the driver's side.

With some help: my youngest daughter put the nut that holds the rearward part of the front fender trim on - that is only accessible with the front door opened about 45 degrees, because even like that, there is about 3 mm of space to play with to get the sucker spinning on the captive bolt that's attached to the stainless steel trim. All other connections are easy. My other daughter did the passenger side a couple of months ago. My fingers are too big to get in there properly!

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Re: Canadian 404C restoration

Berichtdoor Mike Tippett » 02 dec 2018, 07:11

Some recent work on the 404C, last weekend and just today:



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Clearcoat on the Carrosserie Peugeot plate.



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For reassembly, I used the original insulation as a template to cut Dynamat Xtreme panels, mounted the Dynamat and then glued the original insulation to it.



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Heater core with the ancestor of modern "set and forget" heat level - thermostatically controlled water valve.



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Heater core box is mounted in the car with new foam to seal between the air intake in the bodyshell and the bakelite box.



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Wiper mechanism mounted - both spindle assemblies are brand new.
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Re: Canadian 404C restoration

Berichtdoor Mike Tippett » 02 dec 2018, 22:26

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Together at last: 6 Jaeger France gauges in MPH and degrees F ( but the oil pressure is in bar - luckily I am bilingual ;) ) plus the 5 original warning lights that make up part of the sports instrument panel for the 404 Coupé and Cabriolet.

Now I have to get two or three of these gauges refurbished and have a metal plate to hold them made up.
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Re: Canadian 404C restoration

Berichtdoor tomtom » 02 dec 2018, 23:02

Nice Mike! How does that work with the heater... :? ...I do not fully understand
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Re: Canadian 404C restoration

Berichtdoor Mike Tippett » 03 dec 2018, 01:19

It's got temperature sensitive wax in the coil that melts and finely adjusts the tap (automatically) to give a stable temperature.
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Re: Canadian 404C restoration

Berichtdoor Mike Tippett » 31 dec 2018, 20:25

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When the 404C goes back on the road, it will be with this - its original instrument panel.  I tidied it up yesterday - took it apart, cleaned it, repainted the fuel tank and temperature gauge needles.  The car was sold when new in Canada, hence the MPH speedometer.  The 120 MPH scale was particular to the Injection version.  The car came with an alternator so the "battery" gauge is a thermal voltmeter.

The sports instrument panel I have the equipment for will go in once the car has been on the road for a while.
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Re: Canadian 404C restoration

Berichtdoor Mike Tippett » 04 feb 2019, 06:18

New rubber parts for the wiper motor:
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Instrument panel connected - the wiring as built in my car is very different than the wiring diagram:
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The instrument panel installed. Ventilator switch is now mounted on the dashboard rather than the SOFICA heater box:
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Re: Canadian 404C restoration

Berichtdoor Mike Tippett » 18 feb 2019, 04:54

The Dynamat installation is done. Onto the electric washer pump (mounted under the dashboard) next and then the steering column + pedal box will be installed in a week or so.

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Re: Canadian 404C restoration

Berichtdoor Mike Tippett » 28 feb 2019, 07:34

Last bit of work done at Victoria Plating Ltd:

The 4 holes that a previous owner had punched into the sill/rocker panel embellishment strips when the captive bolts rusted off decades ago were welded shut and the outside was polished so this patching work became invisible; the two upper rear fender trims were de-dented and then polished; cadmium plating on the headliner trim panels which are covered with soft headliner material. This was done because they could rust as the originals did and that distorts the fabric as the iron oxide builds up; and finally the hardware for the handbrake components under the car were replated in yellow cadmium.

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Re: Canadian 404C restoration

Berichtdoor tomtom » 03 maart 2019, 23:19

Looks great Mike! Nice that the holes could be closed and polished.
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